Fletcher owned a toy factory in Marietta, Georgia near Lockheed Dobbins
Air Force Base in 1985. In order to expand his business, Fletcher
merged with a partner, Gary Best. Later, he found Best was a high-ranking
covert intelligence agent who intended to use the toy company for
arms dealing. Angola, West Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Ollie
Norths Contra dealings were all part of the new connections
of Fletchers toy company.
to these circumstances, Fletcher was interviewed for the Iran/Contra
hearings and was a deposed witness for the Christic Institutes
24 million dollar legal proceedings against the Iran/Contra lineup
which actually began in 1954. In spite of a five-year investigation,
Fletchers 365-page deposition and a mountain of evidence including
1,500 other depositions that linked US intelligence figures to drugs,
arms shipments and assassinations, the government threw the case out
on the basis it was a frivolous action.
his ousting from the toy company, Fletcher eventually wound up in
Noxon, Montana with a small group of people who began the Militia
of Montana. This affiliation put him on numerous TV talk shows and
before a US Senate investigation committee targeting US militia activity
in 1995. A comment by Fletcher about the scientific ability to control
the weather created a storm of attempted debunking by authorities,
but what is the real story?
PROBE caught up with Mr. Fletcher to ask him about weather control,
new evidence of the fraudulent drug war waged by US authorities and
his attempted assassination in which his left shoulder joint was shattered
with a radio frequency weapon one of those non-lethal weapons.
PROBE: After your Senate appearance
in Washington in 1995, was there any more interest in what you said
about weather control, particularly from the Senator from Wisconsin,
Herbert Cole, who tried so hard to debunk your testimony?
FLETCHER: No, the status with
that was way back in 1990, 93 or 94, I had received miscellaneous
information about the possibility of weather control. I had not made
it a big deal myself, because I didnt have enough of it to be
any kind of reality. I was doing a lot of other things so I put it
on the back shelf. When I received other information which affirmed
the possibility it could be real, I made a random statement to AP
and some other press that there was the ability to alter or control
the weather and it was run by governments.
PROBE: This was before the
FLETCHER: Yes, it was before
that. Apparently one of Senator Coles aides had come across
that, and thought what a wonderful way to make a fool of that crazy
Mr. Fletcher he thinks that there are electronic weather control
abilities. So I was ambushed by Senator Cole from Wisconsin. It obviously
had nothing to do with the Patriot or the Militia movement. The intent
was to ambush me and make me look like some kind of a nut case. It
caught me from left field; fortunately, I had enough in my memory
banks to instantly recall enough information to at least retaliate
in a direct manner to his question. This included the fact that Senator
Claiborne Pell several years ago had been quoted in a news story in
which he had said, "now that we can control the weather, create
earthquakes and tidal waves and use it as a weapon of war we need
to do a treaty." Other responses at that point were sufficient
to get Senator Cole to slam his briefcase closed off camera
of course, you wouldnt have seen it unless you were there. All
three of his go-fers (aides) left immediately and never returned,
so he was not terribly happy that Mr. Fletcher actually answered his
PROBE: The way most of the
media treated the question was to carefully edit out the rest of your
response and leave the viewer or listener simply wondering.
FLETCHER: In truth, they didnt
make as big a deal about it as they could have, and I think its
because with a little bit of follow up they found that Senator Claiborne
Pell of the intelligence committee had made that statement and it
was true and that Mr. Fletcher was accurate. My thing has always been
"make my day, challenge me." After that, the truth was that
spurred me to move forward to actually complete an entire report.
It took a couple of years before I was ready, but time flies when
youre having fun. I generated documentation from all over the
world on weather control, finished a video and a booklet that goes
with it. This is a complete chronology; it includes all the dates,
who, what when and where. In it are details of the treaty signed between
the US and Russia in 1978. It says now that we can create earthquakes
and weather, we should not use it against each other as a weapon.
PROBE: What about domestic
use; using it against your own countrymen?
FLETCHER: Yeah, its the
same old thing. There is nothing in there about using it within the
PROBE: You have mentioned there
is actually a company in Russia that is selling this weather control
technology to farmers, and it was effective for about a 200-mile radius.
What about it?
FLETCHER: Sure, its a
company called ELATE (pronounced E-Lah-Tay). ABC-TV, in 1953, took
one of its reporters and did a live report from one of their
locations where they generate weather control. On the business cards
of the executives of ELATE, it says "weather made to order."
The president of the company boasts the ability of what could be the
equivalent of weather terrorism or extortion, when he says if someone
wants to have a major event they can either pay us to guarantee good
weather or we will give them bad weather.
PROBE: If they can do it and
we can do it, dont two extortions like this cancel each other
FLETCHER: Yeah, I guess so,
maybe two tornadoes equal one earthquake (chuckles). But the other
point with this (which is also totally documented), is that Russia
and the United States have worked together hand in hand for twenty
years in developing weather control. The Russians were here at Lawrence
Livermore Laboratories cooperatively working, and received an award
for some of their work on weather control.
PROBE: Is this a project that
is still going on, or what?
FLETCHER: It is a project that
has been done, many years ago. Additionally, we manufactured an inter-related
piece of equipment, which is a gigantic magnetic motor which we made
special many years ago and shipped to Russia.
PROBE: Your video on weather
control has a lot of documentation in it references to the
Washington Post, Washington Times, Congress, all of
that. Your references make your claims a lot stronger.
FLETCHER: Any time I do a good
expose, in any area at all, I sufficiently supply all the material
anybody would need to cross reference enough to where you would understand
that this is real. Typically, I utilise so much documentation and
do so much investigative research that we would talk about a 2,000
page book if I was to include all the garbage related to it. So if
I talk about a treaty, I may just do a synopsis of the treaty that
I received from the UN. I include the paperwork on that in the weather
control video, I certainly try to put enough out for people that dispute
PROBE: Lets address your
attempted harassment for a moment.
FLETCHER: Its called
attempted murder, not harassment. Unfortunately, it falls into the
category of, "I cant prove it." I had returned nine
months ago [Nov. 95] to California, which I presently call home. I
was on an extended speaking engagement on the east coast, Indiana
and Illinois as well and a few other areas, where I had been talking
about electronic weather control and the related plasma beams, which
are ray guns that are connected to this project. For the first time,
because I had sufficient documentation to do it, I introduced partially
into my presentations the expose of laser weapons, microwave weapons
and supersonic sound weapons and those types of secret or above top
secret weapons. I had included it for the first time in my public
interesting thing happened as soon as I got back. I received one phone
call from a group in New York that I had spoken with behind closed
doors, not in an open forum; it was a private group. It was an interesting
mixture of people including some high-powered, pretty good financial
backers. The phone call was from one of those persons who said that
the FBI had come in immediately after I had departed and wanted to
know everything we had discussed. That is the first time in ten years,
that I know of specifically, of an agency coming in directly behind
two days later, which would be the third day after I was home, I went
to sleep about 10:30 in the evening. The next thing I remembered,
which was 1:30 in the morning, I was sitting up in bed, the lights
were on in my bedroom and there were two guys in white uniforms standing
at the foot of my bed. There was a little bit of blood in my mouth,
my left shoulder was in unbelievable excruciating pain and my wife
was telling me I was going to be OK, and telling me they were going
to be taking me to the hospital. They gave me oxygen, put me on the
rack and took me to the hospital, only a couple of blocks away.
PROBE: Any presence of those
FLETCHER: No, I dont
want to get into that, but let me back up a little. Two nights after
I got home, I had joked with my wife because there was a helicopter
that would come over and circle and then depart. We joked about it
that they knew where I was and all that. That is where those
rumours came from. On that night, my wife was jolted out of bed when
I woke up.
took place was, she realised I was in a grand mal seizure. She turned
on the light and called 911. The seizure was rather peculiar because
it lasted for almost five minutes. I found out later on from the medical
people in the hospital that was an extremely long period of time.
Not only that, but for a person who is over fifty, it should have
killed me. After riding to the hospital I asked that they give me
all the tests necessary to determine the cause of the seizures. I
never had anything like that, never passed out, etc., etc. They did
a full CAT scan, ECG (electrocardiogram), MRI. Within the next day
or so they came back and told me, "there was nothing we can see
that would have caused it." They added, "There is nothing
even that shows that you had one." Apparently, in some cases
there is some malfunctioning of the brain or something that shows
up within 24 hours after such a seizure.
PROBE: So you dont have
a problem with arteriosclerosis or congestion of the arteries or anything
FLETCHER: Absolutely no, nothing.
My injury had nothing to do with any of that. They had not done anything
with my arm by the third day I was in the hospital. They had done
X-rays, but no surgery or anything. I transferred to the Veterans
Hospital because I am veteran. My brief stay was in excess of $5,700.
At the VA the big point was strictly my shoulder. The entire upper
part of my arm, ball of my shoulder had been blown apart.
PROBE: Not the bones crushed?
FLETCHER: Yeah, a quote from
the surgeon. I had been lying on my back, the same position as I was
when I went to sleep. There is no external damage at all. Once the
surgeon got into the shoulder he said it looked like a bomb had gone
off inside my shoulder. That was his description. He had no idea of
my background or who I was; that was his response. It took them forty
minutes just to retrieve small pieces of my shattered shoulder during
surgery. It was a mess, the worst one they had done at the VA in Los
Angeles in years.
of their questions were, had you fallen out of a ten story building?
They removed the upper part of the bone of my arm and the entire ball,
replacing it with a titanium insert, then reconnecting the tendons,
muscles and tissues to the top of the fixture so I could potentially
have movement. That was done nine months ago. Unfortunately, that
surgery was not done correctly, so what I have at this point in time
is no connections at the upper arm to my body. My arm is not connected
to my body except by the external skin of my arm. The muscles have
fallen loose from where they were supposed to have been and additionally,
the shaft is now loose inside my arm bone. I will have surgery in
the next 30 days. The surgery would have been done sooner, but they
gave me the run around, their big concern being admitting it was done
wrong in the first place. Coincidentally, as of a week ago, all of
Mr. Fletchers medical records have disappeared from the hospital
with the exception of what may be on the computer.
PROBE: How did you find that
FLETCHER: By trying to secure
them. I wanted to get my records, but they just disappeared. They
are looking for them now.
PROBE: You are still under
their care. They need those records.
FLETCHER: Theyre gone;
they dont have records on Mr. Fletcher.
PROBE: Well then, with regard
to the weapon or whatever was used on you, do you think their intention
was to kill or to maim?
FLETCHER: No, it was to kill.
We are looking at Mr. Fletcher passing away in his sleep with a cardiac
arrest. One of the microwave weapons that I spoke about earlier on
the east coast was developed at the Oak Ridge Laboratories in Tennessee.
It is one that brings on convulsions or grand mal type seizures. As
long as its aimed at the persons brain interrupting the brain
waves, as long as the trigger is depressed, the convulsions will continue.
PROBE: How does that affect
FLETCHER: Micro or supersonic-type
waves are directed at the head. To answer, Ive done extensive
research on Tesla materials on weather control and all the beams,
particle beams and all the rest of that, including microwave weapons.
His [Teslas] whole thing is the basis for all of it, actually.
In 1894 Tesla was making experimental demonstrations before students.
Part of one of his presentations was to electromagnetically illuminate
his entire body with a charge. He would literally engulf himself entirely
in what would look like flames. It was actually discharge coming out
from the pores of his body, and while he was doing this he would explain
what he was doing. In his actual 1894 paperwork he explained that
depending on the amount of amperage, voltage etc., and how it was
being applied, that the body could absorb, utilise and expel tremendous
amounts of this way beyond everybodys imagination. Particularly
if its applied in a lateral direction to the body. Depending
on how the wave might be applied, or increased or decreased, potentially
that same application could kill a person. Not like in an electric
chair. Tesla pointed out that if the discharge was to go through a
solid mass such as the arm bone in departing, it would cause extreme
damage to that bone. Quote unquote Nikola Tesla over a hundred years
PROBE: It entered your brain,
triggered the seizure and exited the shoulder joint.
FLETCHER: Yes, and thats
the intent of that particular microwave unit. Tesla said over one
hundred years ago that such an exit would cause extreme damage. This
youll find interesting: when I spoke to one of the military
nerve specialists in the hospital, see, everybody that looked at my
X-rays and my paperwork in the hospital, every one of them questioned
just how in the hell this happened. How did this damage happen to
you laying in your bed at night at 1:30 in the morning.
one nerve specialist asked the same thing, and in most cases I was
not talking about my investigative work for obvious reasons. Finally,
with him I thought Im going to tell you what I think happened
and I said "I dont give a damn whether you believe me or
not, I dont care." Told him a little bit about what I had
done and as I got into the story he interrupted me and said, "Wait
a minute are we talking about microwaves or lasers?" So right
away, he knew what I was talking about and these are two different
situations and weapons. I said it was probably a microwave or supersonic
type weapon because there was absolutely no external damage. Additionally,
the left arm was away from the point of entry. This nerve specialist
gave me a gentle, positive looking nod and later interrupted me, "do
you sleep next to a window?" I said, "yes as a matter of
fact. I sleep on the right side of the bed on my back, to my right
side is a seven foot square sliding glass door about two feet away."
Upon saying that, he nodded again, let go of a little smirk and said,
"That will work, lets just see what we can do about fixing
your arm." That was the end of the conversation. Didnt
even bat an eye. I think he knew what happened.
PROBE: Do you know of other
people who have had this happen to them?
FLETCHER: Just reports. I havent
had the time to, research it. There have been hundreds of people who
have experienced a variety of events like this. One of the most impressive
was done during the Panamanian invasion, when Bush invaded. Witnesses
there talked about a small group of Delta Force-type operatives that
melted Panamanian citizens with lasers into little piles of [what
looks like] maple syrup. That is similar, but it is not quite the
same. It is another exotic weapon getting a test run. Just prior to
this, I had been working on a video tape, an expose of these weapons
which I intended to have done a couple of months ago. That plan was
interrupted when I began work on the CIAs drug connections.
The CIA drug connection video was done on the request of two Congressional
offices. The weapons expose will be completed soon, with footage of
army lasers and other things.
PROBE: Glad you brought up
the drug business. Over the years, The PROBE has had quite
a lot, to say about the governments big, but unofficial connection
to this nasty business. Daniel Sheehan of the Christic Institute has
filed suit, Bo Gritz went to the Golden Triangle and came back with
the word from Khun-Sa, the head of one of the largest exporters of
opium in the world, that he wanted to get out of the drug business.
Those really investigating this business say there is no sincere interest
in Washington in cutting off the drugs because of the money they get
for covert operations, the "black budget" and every other
unaccounted for activity. Is that changing or what?
FLETCHER: No its not
changing; its never changed. It changes location, operations
remain the same; sources change and vary. On the video tape on the
CIA drug connections, I include everything that you had mentioned.
I was a witness in Daniel Sheehans legal action, which included
Pablo Escovar as well as Oliver North as a defendant, Richard Secord,
Heine Aderholt, [John] Singlaub and others involved with my toy factory.
PROBE: General Richard Secord
also was connected to your toy factory?
FLETCHER: Absolutely. And Gary
Best, Richard Secord, Aderholt and Singlaubs latest operation
has been in Russia, Azerbaijan continuing with the same name they
used with my toy factory, training mercenaries, shipping arms and
carrying out covert operations. Taking advantage of, believe it or
not, the highest level Russians which are simply functioning as double
agents on both sides of the fence and most likely doing the covert
arms operations for Bill Clinton. (See Bio-Brief in this article for
background info on Secord and Singlaub.)
PROBE: Does this mean the Mena,
FLETCHER: No, no, no, forget
that, Im talking about the recent ones. The ones Anthony
Lake kept covered up, which is part of why Anthony Lake didnt
get approved [as CIA director]. The reason Lake wasnt going
to get approved was his FBI reports that showed him to be an active
communist-Marxist for twenty or thirty years, directly connected with
communist operations in the United States. Those were the FBI reports
he did not want them to see. Therefore, he stepped down, but he was
blamed for covertly keeping secret the arms that Bill Clinton had
arranged to be shipped from Iran to the Muslim area of Croatia. This
is an assumption, but the chances of it not being correct are almost
nil. For those people that dont know, this group involved in
the toy factory also ran the Air America in Vietnam. Since 1992 theyve
been over there.
it not Richard Secord, who is considered by most to be the most non-scrupled
person that ships arms and gets involved with this stuff for years
and years, claimed that he and General Aderholt actually had quit
dealing with Gary Best because he was too corrupted.
PROBE: Is this like the pot
calling the kettle black?
FLETCHER: The extreme pot calling
the extreme kettle, yes. Always the same guys.
PROBE: Recently, there has
been a heightened crescendo of awareness, particularly with Representative
Maxine Waters efforts against the drug cartels and CIA involvement
in California.Your opinion?
FLETCHER: It is old, old stuff.
Maxine Waters is one I originally did this report for; she appears
to be wanting to do something about it. With due respects to her,
I think she is rather naive, as all new Congress people are, with
the idea that they can do something about this [the drug problem].
PROBE: But actually, dont
you think that to keep from being overwhelmed and intimidated from
the get go you need a certain naivete.
FLETCHER: In the long run though,
it wastes money, time and effort and nothing takes place. Her problem,
that I pointed out to her real early, was she believed the Republicans
(Ronald Reagan, Ollie North and others) had helped bring in the drugs
to destroy the black community and that she could hang the blame there.
What I told her during the first meeting with her people was that,
in fact, poop into the fan will splatter all over the Democratic Party,
Bill Clinton and everybody. They nobly told me at that time, that
was okay, let the chips fall where they may. Well thats ultimately
the naivete, in my personal opinion.
problem everybody has by November December  when everybody was
so hot to trot with this, was that after the break they reshuffled
the intelligence community that potentially would inquire into this.
The fellow they put in charge is a Congressman from Florida, who is
in fact a Central Intelligence agent, who in fact worked with Oliver
North back in the old days. In fact, he probably brought down in excess
of three of four hundred thousand for his own pocket, carrying out
money laundering operations under covert shields for Oliver North.
So the chances of this guy moving in any positive direction... its
not going to happen. Sony Bonos people also wanted a copy of
my report and they got it.
PROBE: Speaking of Sony Bono,
he said some really interesting comments when he questioned Janet
Reno during the Waco hearings. The issue of CS gas being so much more
potent than regular tear gas was actually bought up and took these
people to task.
FLETCHER: Well, Sony is now
on the intelligence committee as of January. Matter of fact, I was
told they had a specific interest in two or three points of my video
tape investigation. The tape includes footage of the bookkeeper of
the Medellin drug cartel talking about giving Oliver North ten million
dollars. It includes paperwork that I have had out of Oliver Norths
safe for ten years and no one has ever seen it. [New Dawn note:
In January 1998, Sony Bono died in a ski accident.]
PROBE: How did you get that?
FLETCHER: I got it very carefully.
It shows actual transfers of money into drug operations for Ollie
North. It shows his own individual handwritten notes saying "supply
aircraft to pick up 1,500 kilos of mash." It also says, "assist
in relocating refinery for the Nicaraguans." Then a handful of
other drug related notes. I have interviews with three narcotics agents
who landed at US Air Force bases in the United States with CIA and
national security clearances. The video also includes a complete description
of Barry Seals operation in Mena, Arkansas.
PROBE: Speaking of Barry Seal,
who was shot and killed in broad daylight in New Orleans in 1982,
what was he doing? We are told he turned into an informant for the
DEA. I dont think Seal was naive about the extent of the corruption,
but what do you think really happened?
FLETCHER: Barry wasnt
naive, but he was between a rock and a hard place. They were going
to send him away. Basically, he cut a deal to maybe assist in fingering
some people, which was done cooperatively with Oliver North and DEA
agents. They attempted to do it, never really went any place and he
ended up dying from it. The big point of it all was that he flew the
arms down to Ollie North and the drugs back. The biggest, one of the
biggest, individual drug smugglers in Americas history. There
was a young guy that was a continual hanger on of Barry Seals;
his name was Roger Clinton. Roger was literally a go-fer kind of guy
who was awe struck by Barry Seal. In the video we have a police surveillance
tape of Roger doing a line of cocaine, three and a half ounces of
it at one shot.
PROBE: Three and a half ounces,
FLETCHER: Well, he makes the
crack that he took that much, I dont know if he actually did.
It would have blown out of his ears if he did that much, that is on
the tape, he says it, maybe he means for his pocket. Roger made the
comment he had to get some of this stuff for his brother [Bill Clinton]
because, quote, "he has a nose like a vacuum cleaner."
PROBE: Since the media continues
to down play this whole thing of drugs, the black budget, covert operations
and all that, where do you see this information getting out? What
is Bob Fletchers plan?
FLETCHER: We keep attempting
as best we can. Mainstream press is very resistant to doing this.
Since 1986, Ive been involved in this and still its impossible
to get any serious attention by the press. Amazingly enough, I passed
my tape along to a friend of mine who is an FBI station chief and
he reviewed it and got back to me and said, "Where do you want
me to go with it? What do you want me to do with it?" His point
was that everybody was in it. Who do you turn the President in too?
The FBI, drug enforcement, Central Intelligence, Presidents and Vice-Presidents
of the United States have been totally involved with this stuff for
decades, period. I told him if hed like to, go ahead and send
it to Washington. He said okay, if you want me to do that, put your
own note on it and send it. Which he did thirty days ago [February
1997]. He told me at that time dont expect a quick response.
PROBE: Everybody that gets
involved in this whole rap of drugs, arms and this kind of thing,
its a little like the movie Clear and Present Danger with Harrison
Ford. In the end of the movie Ford, who is playing a good CIA guy,
corners the president on his involvement with drug trafficking. The
President simply tells him that he wont use the evidence because
now hes got a blue chip in the game and can use it for promotions,
power whatever. Naturally, our hero does the right thing, but it only
happens in movies.
FLETCHER: In 1986 or 1987 as
I pursued legal recourse for my toy factory that had been used as
a covert front, the Justice Department, the FBI sent me a letter relating
to information my lawyer was attempting to secure on personalities
out of the toy factory. We received a letter about that request saying
that information getting out about the toy factory would be considered
to be a national security threat, classified by Executive Order of
the President of the United States to be kept secret. That was the
end of it.
PROBE: That is what Gritz and
many others have talked about too, the protection of the drug racket
is an issue of national security their security to be able
to continue to do it.
FLETCHER: Yeah, national security
to protect the very people who are doing it. You know, you can kill
people, overthrow governments, do arms, do drugs and classify it.
End of story, it goes no place.
PROBE: What do you see for
the future for Bob Fletcher? You mentioned a book you were trying
to wrap up?
FLETCHER: The book is called
The Animal Factory, Puppets of the New World Order. My next
adventure is just to get my surgery accomplished on my shoulder and
get the book in print. Im working with NBC-TV with a possibility
of getting my weather control expose on. Then the next video will
be on exotic weapons, laser beams, plasma weapons and on and on. I
retrieved a report relative to gene-splicing that went to George Bush
in 1981 that said they could create mutants to work in certain areas.
Also, they said they could splice the Negro off the face of the Earth
in a few generations.
PROBE: Considering what weve
all heard do you think there is a certain amount of racism in these
kinds of actions? Although others are affected do you think they are
targeting the black race?
FLETCHER: Maybe, but more flagrant
is letting the blacks just starve to death in Africa and generating
the AIDS virus to destroy the blacks in Africa. This is certainly
more racially motivated than targeting a soft or easy target for narcotics,
which is the minority communities. The idea that it is done because
it is racially motivated, I disagree with that, because we have it
at all the lower income levels in the US. They are the easy target
regardless of whether they are black, yellow, white or whatever. Also,
it has destroyed the high-level income persons because they can afford
the big loads of heroin and other narcotics..
PROBE: According to the DEA,
statistically the vast amount of money spent on drugs is by the white
community anyway. I would think it would help if you were trying to
use a divisive weapon to attack the economy of the middle class.
FLETCHER: Its a weapon
against all America. Plus, its a policing drain, a medical drain
but its very positive for the guys on the receiving end
of the money.
Horvat, editor of The PROBE, informs us of new developments relating
to the information in the above interview. Bob Fletcher informed Alexander
Horvat on 13 January 1998 that he was working with Sony Bonos
office and forwarded information on the CIA/drug connection. Bono
was interested in pursuing this course. As reported in January, Bono
tragically died in a ski accident. USA Today published a photo of
Rep. Maxine Waters and Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the US Federal
Reserve, walking together in her district. A Los Angeles newspaper
reports that Greenspan has pledged around two billion dollars to her
district. Horvat speculates that Waters may have been paid-off to
keep quiet about the CIA/drug connection.